Legislature(2017 - 2018)CAPITOL 106

02/07/2018 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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08:01:50 AM Presentation: Building a Culture of Education: K12- University Partnerships; University Administrative Cost Effectiveness
09:25:27 AM Adjourn
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Building a Culture of Education
- K12 - University Partnerships
- University Administrative Cost Effectiveness
by Dr. Jim Johnsen, President, University of AK
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        February 7, 2018                                                                                        
                           8:01 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Justin Parish, Vice Chair                                                                                       
 Representative Ivy Spohnholz                                                                                                   
 Representative Jennifer Johnston                                                                                               
 Representative Chuck Kopp                                                                                                      
 Representative David Talerico                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Gary Stevens, Chair                                                                                                    
 Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                          
 Senator John Coghill                                                                                                           
 Senator Tom Begich                                                                                                             
 Senator Shelley Hughes                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Harriet Drummond, Chair                                                                                         
 Representative Zach Fansler                                                                                                    
 Representative Lora Reinbold (alternate)                                                                                       
 Representative Geran Tarr (alternate)                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION:  BUILDING A CULTURE OF EDUCATION:  K12-UNIVERSITY                                                                 
PARTNERSHIPS; UNIVERSITY ADMINISTRATIVE COST EFFECTIVENESS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JAMES R. JOHNSEN, PhD, President                                                                                                
University of Alaska                                                                                                            
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:    Gave a  presented  entitled  "Building  a                                                             
Culture  of Education:   K12-University  Partnerships; University                                                               
Administrative Cost Effectiveness."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:01:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GARY  STEVENS called  the joint meeting  of the  Senate and                                                             
Senate  Education  Standing  Committees  to order  at  8:01  a.m.                                                               
Representatives  Parish,  Johnson,   and  Talerico  and  Senators                                                               
Stevens, Giessel, Begich, and Hughes  were present at the call to                                                               
order.   Representatives Spohnholz  and Kopp and  Senator Coghill                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation:     Building  a   Culture  of  Education:     K12-                                                               
University    Partnerships;   University    Administrative   Cost                                                               
Effectiveness                                                                                                                   
Presentation:  Building a Culture of Education:  K12- University                                                            
   Partnerships; University Administrative Cost Effectiveness                                                               
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:01:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS announced that the  only order of business would be                                                               
a   presentation:  "Building   a  Culture   of  Education:   K12-                                                               
University    Partnerships;   University    Administrative   Cost                                                               
Effectiveness"                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JAMES R.  JOHNSEN, PhD, President, University  of Alaska, pointed                                                               
to a painting  in the room of the Alaska  treaty signing in 1867;                                                               
he said that  the setting was during  the Lincoln Administration.                                                               
He noted  that five years  before that,  the Morrill Act  of 1862                                                               
was  passed by  Congress and  signed into  law by  the President.                                                               
The Morrill Act  created land grants for  universities across the                                                               
United  States,   and  in  1815  Congress   approved  the  Alaska                                                               
Agricultural College and  School of Mines to become  a land grant                                                               
university.   Alaska  didn't get  the land  that was  supposed to                                                               
come  with  being a  land  grant  university,  but the  state  is                                                               
pursuing  the issue  in  Congress.   Before  the  treaty and  the                                                               
Alaska purchase, a vision of  the country's leaders was to invest                                                               
in education.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  stated that  culture of  education for  Alaska means                                                               
habits  and  values,  and he  emphasized  that  the  university's                                                               
mission  is   for  Alaska.     He  said  he  would   address  the                                                               
university's  partnership with  "friends in  the P12  community."                                                               
He noted that  the commissioner of the Department  of Education &                                                               
Early Development (DEED)  was present in the room.   He mentioned                                                               
cost-effectiveness   in   education,   and  he   emphasized   the                                                               
importance of ensuring students' experiences are positive ones.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:04:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.   JOHNSEN  began   his   PowerPoint  presentation,   entitled                                                               
"Building a  Culture of Education:   K12-University Partnerships;                                                               
University  Administrative  Cost  Effectiveness."    He  directed                                                               
attention  to  slides  2-5 of  the  presentation,  entitled  "P12                                                               
University   Partnerships."     He   stated  that   he  and   the                                                               
commissioner of DEED  work together, which is  something that was                                                               
not done in  the past.  As  shown on slide 4,  he said partnering                                                               
is taking place through teacher  education and by reaching out to                                                               
students to increase educational  attainment in Alaska, which has                                                               
been relatively low.   Bringing that rate up is  important in the                                                               
development  of a  more  diverse and  innovative  economy and  to                                                               
reduce the  cost of health care  and the incidence of  crime.  He                                                               
offered  a  more  in-depth  look   at  the  partnerships  of  the                                                               
university,  DEED, and  local school  districts, which  focus on:                                                               
increasing   academic  rigor,   expanding  concurrent   and  dual                                                               
enrollment  programs,  increasing  college  and  work  readiness,                                                               
increasing  college  attendance  and completion  rates,  reducing                                                               
required   developmental  coursework,   and  improving   educator                                                               
preparation, recruitment,  and retention.   He said the  UA Board                                                               
of  Regents and  Board of  Education meet  regularly, and  he has                                                               
regular   meetings   with   the    Alaska   Council   of   School                                                               
Administrators.   He said UA  is in  the process of  creating the                                                               
College of Education  at the University of  Alaska Southeast, and                                                               
that program  has an  internal advisory  council and  an external                                                               
council.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:09:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.   JOHNSEN  advanced   to   slides   6-7,  entitled   "Teacher                                                               
Education."  He stated that there  is a low percentage of Alaska-                                                               
trained teachers in the state  with relatively high turnover, the                                                               
estimated cost  of that  turnover is 20  million dollars  a year.                                                               
He stated he would like to  use that money elsewhere, such as for                                                               
recruitment of teachers.   High teacher turnover  in rural Alaska                                                               
is  a burden,  but  more of  a  burden to  the  students and  the                                                               
communities.     More  opportunities  for  Alaskan's   to  become                                                               
teachers  need to  be provided.   He  stated the  goal is  for 90                                                               
percent of  all new teachers  to be  educated in Alaska  by 2025.                                                               
Dr.  Johnsen said  the operating  budget request  for the  coming                                                               
fiscal year includes an increment  to fund strategies to increase                                                               
the  ability  to  train more  teachers  and,  through  additional                                                               
professional development and enrichment,  to retain teachers.  He                                                               
highlighted an  item on slide  7, the Alaska  Statewide Mentoring                                                               
Project, which is not only  improving the retention rate but also                                                               
showing  up in  improved academic  performance of  students.   He                                                               
mentioned the  Rural Alaskans' Honor Institute  (RAHI) [not shown                                                               
on the slide], which is a  place where "smart young Alaskans" are                                                               
brought  to   the  university   to  learn   about  opportunities,                                                               
including teaching.  He pointed  to Educators Rising, on slide 7,                                                               
and noted  that about  half of  the schools  in Alaska  have that                                                               
program, and UA would like to expand it.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:12:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES asked  how many  teachers are  trained in  Alaska                                                               
currently.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  estimated about  800 total  teachers are  hired each                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:12:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   STEVENS  asked   Dr.  Johnsen   to  expound   upon  the                                                               
recruitment process.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  responded that UA  is working with  school districts                                                               
through the  Educators Rising program  by talking to  children at                                                               
an  early age  about becoming  teachers, much  like is  done with                                                               
middle  school  children  through  the Alaska  Native  Science  &                                                               
Engineering Program.   He said  there has  been a decline  in the                                                               
respect  given to  the  teaching profession.    He mentioned  the                                                               
Master of Arts  in Teaching (MAT) program, which  is a fast-track                                                               
to teaching.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSTON  asked  Dr.  Johnsen  how  reduction  of                                                               
developmental  training  and  the  performance  scholarships  are                                                               
measured,  specifically related  to  performance  levels two  and                                                               
three.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN said he could  provide those details.  He recollected                                                               
that  when he  started  as  president, about  50  percent of  the                                                               
students   coming  to   the  university   required  developmental                                                               
coursework, and now the number  has been reduced to approximately                                                               
30 percent.   In response  to a follow-up question,  he confirmed                                                               
that  part of  the reason  for the  reduction is  because of  the                                                               
university's  change  in  its approach  to  developmental  course                                                               
work; it  has become more  refined.  He offered  further details.                                                               
He  noted  that  some  of   these  students  are  coming  to  the                                                               
university at  age 29,  for example, and  don't remember  some of                                                               
the math  skills they once  learned in high  school.  He  said UA                                                               
can tailor the developmental requirement to the student.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:17:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSTON   asked  if  that  means   that  UA  has                                                               
developed a network of tutors and  has "looked into the tutors as                                                               
far as developing a further network of teachers."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  answered that  he would  get back  to Representative                                                               
Johnston  with exact  information.   Due to  fiscal cuts  in past                                                               
years, the university has had  to cut student support and student                                                               
advising positions.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:17:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  asked if MAT  was developed for  professionals in                                                               
other fields who  decide they may like to try  out teaching or if                                                               
it  is  designed  for  someone  who  already  has  taken  several                                                               
education courses.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN confirmed that the MAT  is designed for those who may                                                               
want to change  careers or perhaps just got out  of the military,                                                               
for example.  The prerequisite for  entering the MAT program is a                                                               
baccalaureate degree.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:19:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP,  regarding teacher turnover, said  the state                                                               
is spending  about $20 million  a year, and he  acknowledged that                                                               
"these are  a lot of  partnerships that you're doing  with DEED."                                                               
He  referenced  information  from the  presentation  saying  that                                                               
there was  a 50  percent turnover  rate in  rural Alaska,  and he                                                               
asked how many teachers that is.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN stated that he  would get back to Representative Kopp                                                               
with the details, but he estimated the number is 100.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP   stated  that   it  was   interesting  that                                                               
Northwest,  West, and  Southwest Alaska  suffer from  the highest                                                               
turnover  rates  and  have  single  percentile  scores  in  math,                                                               
science, and the English language.   He remarked that the loss of                                                               
students in Alaska  is directly related to  teacher turnover, and                                                               
the foundation  already has been  laid for a  statewide mentoring                                                               
project that may be much more intensive  than what it is now.  He                                                               
stated,  "It's  almost  like  we  need  ...  a  fulltime  support                                                               
ministry for  teachers."  He said  he thinks a program  like this                                                               
would  eventually   pay  for  itself   by  keeping   teachers  in                                                               
classrooms.   This program could give  support at a ratio  of one                                                               
person for 6-10 teachers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:21:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND  opined that  Dr. Herb Schroeder  does an                                                               
amazing job of "reaching down  into that middle school cohort and                                                               
producing engineers."   She asked  how that depth of  reach could                                                               
be modeled in Educators Rising.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN stated  that the university reaches  out to students.                                                               
Regarding  the  Alaska  Native   Science  &  Engineering  Program                                                               
(ANSEP), he  said Dr. Schroeder  identifies the smartest  kids in                                                               
school  and  gets  them  on the  university  campus  every  year.                                                               
Ultimately, he said, it comes  down to caring adults establishing                                                               
standards and instilling confidence in  those young students.  He                                                               
stated his  belief that this approach  needs to be taken  to make                                                               
effective prospective teachers.  He  noted that Finland, which is                                                               
a country  that has been  "extremely successful in moving  up the                                                               
ranks," has  done this.  He  said he would like  to start talking                                                               
to those students that have  been identified and have them become                                                               
math  teachers.   During the  past few  years, funding  cuts have                                                               
been necessary;  these cuts have  been a little more  in-depth in                                                               
some areas  to ensure that  ANSEP expansion in Anchorage  has the                                                               
funding  it needs  to continue.   This  year's budget  request is                                                               
another  increment  of  funding   for  development  of  ANSEP  in                                                               
Anchorage, he said.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND said  she is glad to hear  that and hopes                                                               
Dr. Johnsen is taking a similar approach with educators.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:22:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH  commented on  the  importance  of the  mentoring                                                               
program and how it has declined  but is being discussed here.  He                                                               
noted that Dr. Johnsen had stated  a cost of $20 million annually                                                               
for   recruitment,   and  he   asked   how   something  such   as                                                               
Representative  Seaton  proposes -  an  earlier  time period  for                                                               
solidifying  the  budget  for  education  -  would  affect  those                                                               
recruitment numbers.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN surmised  it would reduce turnover,  although he said                                                               
he  may not  be  aware of  certain effects  of  early funding  on                                                               
turnover.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said clearly when  students are in their last year                                                               
of teacher training,  they are being recruited.  He  asked if Dr.                                                               
Johnsen thinks school districts would  be able to recruit earlier                                                               
if they had a certainty about their budgets.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  answered that  he thinks there  would be  an impact,                                                               
but he  said he would  want to test  that, perhaps by  looking at                                                               
other states that may have earlier funding.  He continued:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Just like ANSEP where, in  spite of cuts, we cut deeper                                                                    
     and  invested,  we did  that  also  with the  mentoring                                                                    
     program.   So, we tried to  protect that.  That  was in                                                                    
     my  first year.   We  said, "Wait  a second,  it's just                                                                    
     wrong,  given   the  positive  results,  to   end  this                                                                    
     program."  So,  again, we cut a  little deeper, painful                                                                    
     though that was, to make  sure that funding went to the                                                                    
     mentor program.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:26:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN returned to the  PowerPoint presentation, to slide 8,                                                               
entitled "Student Outreach."  He  mentioned Alaska Middle College                                                               
High  School and  said 75  percent of  the students  who graduate                                                               
from it  come to  a UA  campus with an  average of  30 university                                                               
credits  units  "in  their  pockets"   and  many  with  associate                                                               
degrees.   He said ANSEP is  successful.  He noted  that the Jump                                                               
Start  Program in  the Kenai  Peninsula Borough  supports tuition                                                               
reduction for  residents of the  borough to close  to one-quarter                                                               
million dollars  a year.  He  said there is a  strong partnership                                                               
between UAA  and the  King Career Center,  and the  community and                                                               
technical  colleges -  UAA and  UAF  - work  closely with  school                                                               
districts.  He pointed to the  last item on slide 8, "TRIO Upward                                                               
Bound,"  and said  the  federal government  is  also involved  in                                                               
education  -  teacher  education  in  particular.    He  informed                                                               
members of the committees that  the Higher Education Act is being                                                               
reauthorized  now;   numerous  provisions  of  the   Act  address                                                               
education  funding  and  teacher  education.   He  said  Alaska's                                                               
senior   Senator   is   playing   an  important   role   in   the                                                               
reauthorization of the Act.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:26:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN advanced  to slide  9,  entitled "Student  Financial                                                               
Support."   He  stated that  the  UA Scholars  Program is  funded                                                               
through land  development.  Even  though UA has never  been given                                                               
the full land-grant  it was due, it is  active in commercializing                                                               
and  getting monetary  value from  the lands  that it  does have.                                                               
The money goes into a fund  endowment and then earnings from that                                                               
fund pay  for the  UA Scholars Program.   The  Alaska Performance                                                               
Scholarships award $12  million annually to students  who come to                                                               
the university.   The  Alaska Education Grant  is given  based on                                                               
needs, between $500  and [$4,000] per year.  He  stated that even                                                               
with the  education grant  and a needs-based  grant, UA  is about                                                               
the lowest ranking  in the country, in terms  of providing needs-                                                               
based aid for students.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:29:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.   JOHNSEN   directed   attention  to   slide   10,   entitled                                                               
"Administrative Cost  Effectiveness."   He emphasized that  it is                                                               
critical for the university, as a  university of the state, to be                                                               
accountable to the  people of Alaska.  He  listed five efficiency                                                               
review  processes, as  shown  on slide  11, which  are:   a  2008                                                               
MacTaggart  and Rodgers  report; a  2011 James  Fisher report;  a                                                               
2015 Statewide  Transformation Report; a 2016  Strategic Pathways                                                               
[review], which  is ongoing;  and a 2017  review by  experts from                                                               
the National  Center for Higher  Education Management  Systems of                                                               
past UA systemwide  studies.  In response to  Senator Stevens, he                                                               
said he would be happy to  provide [the 2017 review].  He brought                                                               
attention  to slide  12, entitled  "Strategic  Planning," and  he                                                               
said the  university system has  clear goals and  measures, which                                                               
he would share later.  On slide  13, he said, is the summary from                                                               
the  2017 review,  which reflected  that UA  had done  a lot  and                                                               
still  has  much  to do.    He  said  UA  has engaged  Jones  and                                                               
McGuinness  over the  last year  to focus  on improvement  goals.                                                               
Slide 14  focuses on strategic  pathways and reflects  the result                                                               
of an  18-month process where  230 faculty, staff,  students, and                                                               
community members  jointly looked at  22 areas of  the university                                                               
with the  question:  "How  do we  optimize our system  to achieve                                                               
our goals for higher education in  Alaska?"  He said the chart on                                                               
slide 14 shows a tension between  the governing entity of a state                                                               
system  and the  campuses -  the universities  that make  up that                                                               
system.   The top four  rows of  the chart -  mission, objective,                                                               
core principles,  and strategy - and  said they are all  one.  He                                                               
then  pointed  to  the  row   that  shows  courses  and  programs                                                               
available across  the university and said  that represents unity.                                                               
He indicated  that the information  between those rows,  which he                                                               
compared to [the  filling of] a hamburger, shows  where the three                                                               
major campuses differ.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN said  the Board of Regents has made  some tough calls                                                               
over the  last several years.   The university system  moved from                                                               
three  schools of  management to  two and  is in  the process  of                                                               
going from  three distinctive colleges  of education to one.   It                                                               
is streamlining  its procurement process.   He explained  that UA                                                               
purchases about $200  million of "stuff" per year,  which must be                                                               
coordinated  to get  more  buying  power.   He  named grants  and                                                               
contracts administration as  an example of two areas  in which UA                                                               
has  "focused  on  backroom efficiencies  to  enable  front  room                                                               
service."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:34:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSTON   mentioned  the  hamburger   and  asked                                                               
whether credits are transferable.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  answered yes, all  credits are  transferable, though                                                               
they may  not transfer to  a specific  degree from one  campus to                                                               
another.   He provided  an example  of statistics  for psychology                                                               
and statistics  for economics where  the theory is all  the same,                                                               
but they  are very  different courses and  should not  be counted                                                               
when changing  disciplines.  The  university has  streamlined the                                                               
process to  48 hours for  evaluating which credits transfer  to a                                                               
major.  That  said, he reiterated that all  credits will transfer                                                               
from UAA  to UAF, for example,  in counting toward a  degree.  He                                                               
added that  general education  requirements (GERs)  all transfer.                                                               
In response  to Senator Stevens,  he confirmed that if  a student                                                               
passed the  general education requirements  at the  University of                                                               
Alaska Southeast,  then he/she has  passed the  general education                                                               
requirements at UAA and UAF.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:36:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOHNSTON  mentioned   nursing  and   engineering                                                               
degrees and  asked, "Does that  prove true for those  two degrees                                                               
also?"                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  answered yes.   He said the nursing  and engineering                                                               
programs   collaborate  across   the  university   system;  their                                                               
external advisory  committees work together.   He said,  "We tend                                                               
to think of these institutions  as competing with each other, but                                                               
I think we're realizing that we're so much stronger together."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:37:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN returned  to the  PowerPoint presentation,  to slide                                                               
15, entitled "UA Goals & Measures  2018-2025."  He said the Board                                                               
of  Regents has  established five  goals:   economic development,                                                               
skilled   workforce,  world-class   research,  increased   degree                                                               
attainment,  and cost-effectiveness.   He  said the  universities                                                               
are meeting  with deans and  directors to  find out the  goals of                                                               
the colleges that  then will "roll up to  these statewide goals."                                                               
He  said  increasing  degree attainment  is  the  critical  goal.                                                               
Currently enrollment is at 29,000 and  the goal of 45,000 by 2025                                                               
is almost a 50 percent increase.   He has two benchmarks that the                                                               
Board of Regents  approved:  one is to look  at the percentage of                                                               
population in  school in another state;  the other is to  look at                                                               
Alaska's history  of student enrollment.   In 1965, he  said, 6.3                                                               
percent  of  Alaskans  were  students   at  one  of  the  state's                                                               
campuses.  Currently  that number is just over 4  percent, and he                                                               
said 6 percent seems reasonable.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:40:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SPOHNHOLZ  stated that  she  is  excited to  hear                                                               
about ambitious goals.  She asked  for an explanation of the item                                                               
under  the  goals  on  slide  15, which  is  to  increase  annual                                                               
completions per full-time equivalent (FTE).                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN answered that is  a standard measure of productivity.                                                               
He  offered  further  details.    He  said  if  UA  can  increase                                                               
graduation  rates,  then   there  will  be  "more   people  as  a                                                               
percentage of our  total student body graduating  in a particular                                                               
year."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:41:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH asked  what the target was in  terms of the                                                               
number of Alaska teachers hired  and whether the turnover problem                                                               
would be addressed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR.   JOHNSEN  indicated   that  the   answer  depends   on  UA's                                                               
partnership  with  the  school  districts.    He  explained  that                                                               
districts  need   to  reduce  their   turnover  rates   while  UA                                                               
simultaneously produces more teachers.   In response to a follow-                                                               
up question, he indicated that the  focus is simply on "more" and                                                               
refinement will  come later.   The 80  percent solution  is more.                                                               
He  stated that  he  would love  having  too many  Alaska-trained                                                               
teachers.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:44:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KOPP asked  Dr. Johnsen  if he  would agree  that                                                               
athletics and research are two of UAs biggest "draws."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN replied  no.   He  acknowledged  that $4-$6  outside                                                               
dollars come in to  UA for each $1 that goes  in to research, and                                                               
the area attracts graduate students.   He said athletics does not                                                               
seem to be  a powerful draw in  Alaska.  He said  a powerful draw                                                               
to  students  currently  is  the ability  to  graduate  and  find                                                               
employment opportunities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOPP countered that  he believes that athletics is                                                               
a powerful  draw when trying to  get young people to  select UAA,                                                               
and he suggested  that Dr. Johnsen may have  "a little disconnect                                                               
from actually where a lot of  Alaskans are at with respect to our                                                               
athletic programs."   He said schools become  known for different                                                               
programs,  and  the  better  Alaska's  programs  do,  the  better                                                               
recruitment  is.   He  said  he is  glad  to  see research  being                                                               
highlighted, because he  does think that "draws the  ... top tier                                                               
faculty, and that's critical."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  acknowledged Representative  Kopp's point.   He said                                                               
the  university's goal  with athletics  has been  to get  private                                                               
support  up to  the same  level as  the students  are paying  for                                                               
their academic programs.   He said there is no  question that the                                                               
athletic programs  are valuable; however, they  have been heavily                                                               
subsidized - more  so than academic courses - which  he opined is                                                               
not a  good plan.   Dr.  Johnsen said  UAA and  UAF are  going to                                                               
continue  to  garner more  private  support  for athletics.    He                                                               
related  that UA  has three  alumni at  the Winter  Olympics this                                                               
year, all  of whom happened to  have majored in engineering.   He                                                               
concluded,  "So,  there's  no  question   that  it's  very,  very                                                               
important."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:47:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN advanced  to slide 15, entitled "UA  Goals & Measures                                                               
2018-2025," which represents the  regent's established goals over                                                               
the long term;  those goals are tied to funding.   He pointed out                                                               
that the  appendix breaks out  the specific  investments proposed                                                               
in   each  of   the  goal   areas.     Referring  to   slide  16,                                                               
"Institutional Missions," he said UA  is clear about its missions                                                               
for  each university.   He  then addressed  slide 17,  "System vs                                                               
Campus   Authority,"  and   he   said  UA   has  considered   the                                                               
relationship  between stateside  administration  and campuses  to                                                               
determine  who  is responsible  for  what,  as well  as  focusing                                                               
statewide  on governance  and "those  services that  make sense."                                                               
He said  when he began as  president, UA "had some  programs that                                                               
touched  students and  others  in  the statewide  administration;                                                               
those have  all been  moved to  campuses."   He added,  "The only                                                               
stuff  that's  in  statewide  is  where it  makes  sense  from  a                                                               
governance   standpoint  and   where,   from  an   administrative                                                               
standpoint,  it  makes  sense to  have  that  centrally  provided                                                               
service to the university campuses."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN highlighted  slide  18, entitled  "System vs  Campus                                                               
Reductions,"  and  he  stated that  the  university  has  reduced                                                               
systemwide  functions 36  percent, in  terms of  positions, since                                                               
fiscal  year 2014  (FY  14).   Funding  has  gone  down about  37                                                               
percent.   He  said  that  is "not  quite  triple the  systemwide                                                               
average reduction  over this period."   Further  consideration is                                                               
being made to "make statewide even leaner."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:50:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN covered  slides 19-21,  entitled "System  vs. Campus                                                               
Authority."  Slide  19 clarifies roles of  governance between the                                                               
Board of Regents, the statewide  administration, and the specific                                                               
universities.    He said  UA  was  criticized in  the  MacTaggart                                                               
Report  for  not involving  the  campuses  in statewide  decision                                                               
making.    He  relayed  that  he has  weekly  meetings  with  the                                                               
chancellors individually  and as  a group with  a couple  of vice                                                               
presidents.  No decisions are  made without consultation with the                                                               
chancellors, which  has strengthened collaboration.   Dr. Johnsen                                                               
said there  would always be  tensions in a  system, but UA  has a                                                               
process for  working through them.   He said UA thinks  about the                                                               
needs  of the  state and  provides administrative  functions that                                                               
are nonduplicated.  Further, the  University of Alaska Foundation                                                               
and the Land  Management Office are self-funded  activities.  The                                                               
foundation  is a  501-C-3, while  the Land  Management Office  is                                                               
paid for  through development activity.   These  entities provide                                                               
some  services  directly  to  the  campuses,  but  they  have  an                                                               
independent mission, as  well.  Dr. Johnsen  said that [functions                                                               
that directly  impact] students and faculty  members are strictly                                                               
at the campus level.  He  gave examples of two programs that were                                                               
moved  out  of statewide  services:    the Mining  and  Petroleum                                                               
Training Services (MAPTS) program  and the K-12 Outreach program.                                                               
He  mentioned  the  Executive  Council, a  Summit  Team,  and  12                                                               
systemwide councils.   He said every council has a  charter and a                                                               
scorecard and reports monthly on  its initiatives and objectives.                                                               
He stated that  this effort increases transparency as  to what is                                                               
going on across the system.   He said many of the recommendations                                                               
and decisions  that came  out of  the strategic  pathways process                                                               
have been  assigned to  the councils.   He  said this  plan comes                                                               
partly from  his experience  in the  private sector,  where there                                                               
were  monthly  reviews  that  covered   every  aspect  such  that                                                               
"nothing falls through the cracks."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:53:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN advanced to slide  22, entitled "Budget Development,"                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
         Reports identified the need to improve budget                                                                          
     development between statewide and campuses                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        Regents set goals, then Statewide administration                                                                        
     works with campuses to identify strategies and needed                                                                      
     resources                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
        Budget increments are tied to specific strategic                                                                        
     goals down to the campus level                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
       Budget reduction plans are codeveloped with campuses                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  said budget  cuts are  not a  pleasant process.   He                                                               
said, "We're  planning for a  good future, but we're  also always                                                               
preparing for what might actually take place."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:54:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH  noted  that  Senator   Coghill  "is  looking  at                                                               
extending the  education tax  credit" that  Dr. Johnsen  had said                                                               
last year  was a  critical component  of UA's  budgeting process.                                                               
He said the tax  credit is set to expire this  year, and he asked                                                               
Dr.  Johnsen  how  vital  a  role that  credit  plays  in  future                                                               
planning processes.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:55:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.   JOHNSEN  acknowledged   that  both   Senator  Coghill   and                                                               
Representative Tuck have  bills that would extend  the tax credit                                                               
program.    He   emphasized  that  the  tax   credit  program  is                                                               
critically  important to  the university,  because it  brings, on                                                               
average, $5-$7 million dollars a year.   A lot of that money goes                                                               
into workforce development, research,  and scholarships.  He said                                                               
the  larger significance  of the  credit is  connectivity between                                                               
the  university   and  the   mining  companies,   banks,  fishing                                                               
organizations,  and other  elements of  the private  sector, that                                                               
are making those contributions.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:56:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN  returned  to  the   PowerPoint  presentation.    He                                                               
advanced to  slide 23, entitled  "Salary Schedules."  He  said UA                                                               
is doing a comprehensive  compensation analysis covering faculty,                                                               
staff, and  executives.  The  university system has "been  on the                                                               
downslope" financially, while other  universities in other states                                                               
"have been on  the upside" coming out of the  recession.  He said                                                               
UA  has had  salary freezes  across the  board in  FY 18  and 19,                                                               
which includes no step increases.   He credited United Academics,                                                               
the union  for the university system,  which helped UA work  on a                                                               
collective  bargaining unit  with no  compensation increases  for                                                               
three years.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:57:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN   advanced  to  slide  24,   entitled  "Retention  &                                                               
Graduation," and he  said UA is committed to achieving  a goal of                                                               
65 percent  [retention and  graduation] by 2025.   A  large study                                                               
done  by  Georgetown  shows  that twenty  percent  of  jobs  will                                                               
require bachelorette  degrees and  higher, while 20  percent will                                                               
require  "some  postsecondary education  of  value,"  such as  an                                                               
associate  degree or  certification.   He  said  all other  goals                                                               
established by the regents are in line with the 65 percent goal.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:58:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ  referred to slide 23,  regarding salary                                                               
schedules.   She shared  that one  of her  brothers works  in the                                                               
Lower 48  and experienced the  impact of the recession  on public                                                               
institutions,  including  the  difficulty of  retaining  faculty.                                                               
She acknowledged that there is  a challenge to compete nationwide                                                               
when recruiting  faculty.  She  noted that most faculties  do not                                                               
commit to an  institution for just a couple of  years but hire on                                                               
for "a  long-term relationship"; therefore, the  loss of cutting-                                                               
edge faculty  could affect the university's  competitive edge for                                                               
a decade.  She  said it took UA 15 to 20 years  to recover from a                                                               
"competitive disadvantage" it  faced in the 1980s.   She said she                                                               
fears  UA is  taking backsteps  that will  once again  affect it.                                                               
She  shared  that  when  she  was in  school  in  the  '90s,  her                                                               
classmates went  to colleges in  the Lower 48, because  UA wasn't                                                               
offering competitive  degrees with  exciting faculty.   She said,                                                               
"We don't  want to see that  kind of brain drain  as we're moving                                                               
forward."                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN said he agrees.   He pointed out that UA ranks number                                                               
one in  Arctic research,  and "we  need to own  that space."   He                                                               
said  other institutions,  such  as  Dartmouth, Northern  Arizona                                                               
University,  the University  of Colorado,  and the  University of                                                               
Washington,  "are  discovering the  Arctic."    He stated,  "It's                                                               
critical,  not just  for  that ranking  and  that reputation,  in                                                               
terms of our ability to  attract top-notch faculty; it's critical                                                               
for  solving  relevant problems,  challenges  that  we face  here                                                               
living in  the North.   So,  it's a  proxy for  a lot  of really,                                                               
really  important,   good  things  that  we   retain  that  world                                                               
preeminence in Arctic research."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:03:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  advanced to slide  25, entitled  "Curriculum," which                                                               
read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
        Fisher recommended common general education core                                                                        
     across the campuses                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
       We are making good progress here                                                                                         
       o    Aligning   General   Education   Requirements                                                                       
     (GERs) across all campuses                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
       o    Establishing    system   wide    policy   for                                                                       
     transfers                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          o    Establishing system wide standards for                                                                           
     college readiness and developmental education                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  said UA has  figured out a more  streamlined process                                                               
for figuring out transfers.   He then addressed slide 26, "Career                                                               
&  Technical   Education,"  which   read  as   follows  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
       Reports identified the need to clearly distinguish                                                                       
     our vocational, career and technical education                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? We've acted by creating distinct Career & Technical                                                                      
     Colleges at UAA and UAF                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
       Prioritizing workforce needs  65% by 2025                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      ? Reports recommend pricing community college rates                                                                       
     below other degree program                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ? FY19 budget proposing CTE tuition off-set                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN estimated  that within  the next  week, UA  would be                                                               
announcing  its specific  occupational  endorsement programs  and                                                               
courses  across  the system  where  it  will  be providing  a  25                                                               
percent discount.   He said UA  has a unified tuition  model and,                                                               
while  its  university  tuition is  relatively  low  compared  to                                                               
national standards,  its community college tuition  is relatively                                                               
high.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:05:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN advanced  to slides 27 and  28, entitled "Information                                                               
Technology."   He described information  technology (IT)  as UA's                                                               
nervous system  and emphasized the  need to  keep it strong.   He                                                               
said  several   reviews  have  been  done,   including  strategic                                                               
pathways of  IT, and more recently  he engaged an IT  expert from                                                               
the Silicon  Valley to do a  review; UA will be  making decisions                                                               
based on that  review in the next couple weeks.   He talked about                                                               
the  dynamic  nature  of  IT  and having  to  keep  up  with  its                                                               
innovations.  He  mentioned Thomas L. Friedman's  book, The World                                                             
Is Flat,  and he  said it means  that regional  geography becomes                                                             
less important, which means UA  has to increase its investment in                                                               
online  programs.   He  noted  that  UA  currently has  over  100                                                               
programs available completely on line.   He talked about security                                                               
issues  and using  data to  make decisions,  such as  the use  of                                                               
metrics  and predictive  modeling,  particularly in  the area  of                                                               
student support.  He said  UA is doing streamlining, investing in                                                               
automation process improvement, and is  working with the State of                                                               
Alaska on a travel system, among other things.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:08:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES noted  that the two committees had  focused on the                                                               
virtual  education  effort through  SB  96,  which addresses  the                                                               
national   problem   of   teacher  recruitment   and   retention.                                                               
Regarding  the  teacher  education program,  she  emphasized  the                                                               
importance of "gearing  up teachers to be able to  use this model                                                               
... in a  whole new twenty-first century kind of  way."  She said                                                               
this is part  of the solution in closing the  achievement gap and                                                               
addressing the teacher shortage.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN responded, "point taken."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:09:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SPOHNHOLZ stated there  are a lot of opportunities                                                               
for  Alaskans  to  be  moving  into  information  technology  and                                                               
computer  engineering.    She  questioned what  UA  is  doing  to                                                               
provide those  opportunities.   She offered an  example of  a 30-                                                               
year-old  constituent who  is a  software developer  who develops                                                               
applications ("apps") and is doing  well for himself.  She stated                                                               
her belief  that increased access to  broadband throughout Alaska                                                               
will provide opportunities  for rural Alaskans to  "have one foot                                                               
in each world in  the best of ways."  She  said she is interested                                                               
in what UA is doing "in that realm."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:10:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.   JOHNSEN   highlighted   the   university's   computer   and                                                               
engineering programs.   He  provided an  example of  a successful                                                               
entrepreneur - a UAF graduate who  went on to Berkley to earn his                                                               
Master  of  Business Administration  (MBA).    He said  this  UAF                                                               
graduate has  been working  with the  technical industry  for the                                                               
last 20 years.  He  recalled speaking with the entrepreneur about                                                               
opportunities in  Alaska, and he  offered his  understanding that                                                               
this person would like to help  other Alaskans rise in the field.                                                               
He  talked  about  the President's  Innovation  Challenge,  which                                                               
provides prizes  for students who  work with business  leaders in                                                               
the community  to identify  a problem and  develop a  solution to                                                               
it.  He  said there is "a whole ecosystem  of innovation," and UA                                                               
needs to continue to promote it.   He noted that UAF had launched                                                               
a  business incubator  located in  the new  engineering building.                                                               
He said Alaska Center for Energy  and Power (ACEP) is "one of the                                                               
anchors."   Four faculty and  companies have space there,  and he                                                               
expressed his hope that there  would be a research park developed                                                               
in the future.  He mentioned mariculture in Southeast Alaska.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:12:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN  advanced  to   slides  30-34,  entitled  "Improving                                                               
Student Experience."   He  covered the  information on  slide 31,                                                               
which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Budget cuts negatively impact student facing                                                                          
      services; FY19 budget includes resources to replace                                                                       
     those services                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     ? New on-line student access gateway provides students                                                                     
     easier access to courses and programs statewide                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ? New readiness assessment  allows for faster, and more                                                                    
     targeted developmental work                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       Math Emporium and  other innovations in developmental                                                                    
     programs                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  related the information  on slide 32, which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? New  Education Advisory  Board (EAB)  student success                                                                    
     initiative  will   provide  data  based   advising  and                                                                    
     increase retention                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     ? Title IX compliance creating safer campuses                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ?   Course  sharing   between  universities   increases                                                                    
     opportunities for students                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Progress being  made  on  common calendar  (semester                                                                    
     start / end dates and breaks are now common)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Additional   on-line  programs   for  nontraditional                                                                    
     students                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  noted that  over 85  percent of  UA students  and 95                                                               
percent of  staff completed training  in Title 9 this  past year.                                                               
He estimated  there are  now 106 online  programs available.   He                                                               
said Alaska is ranked as the  state with the most individuals who                                                               
have attended  college but have not  earned a degree.   For those                                                               
individuals to  be able to  finish college while  working, online                                                               
courses are imperative.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:17:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSEN covered  the material  on  slide 33,  which read  as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? e-Learning was focus of Pathways process                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ?  Increased  cross  campus  collaboration  through  e-                                                                    
     Learning Consortium                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? 106 programs can be fully completed online                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     ? In FY17,  an average of 4.3  e-Learning credits taken                                                                    
     per student  an increase of 43% since FY13                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ? Approximately one-third of students enrolled at more                                                                     
     than one campus                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     ? Exploring outsourcing of some online programs                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  related that at UAS,  over 50 percent of  the credit                                                               
hours  are  delivered  on  line to  students  across  the  state.                                                               
Considering  that   a  third  of   UA's  students   are  enrolled                                                               
simultaneously at  more than one  campus, UA is working  toward a                                                               
seamless systems  process across the UA  system.  He said  UA has                                                               
been looking  at outsourcing  a portion  of its  online programs.                                                               
He said digital library and  database subscriptions would be part                                                               
of UA's operating budget request.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:18:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN advanced to slide  36, entitled "Strategic Investment                                                               
by  Objective,"  which details  UA's  budget  request beyond  the                                                               
governor's request  and breaks it  down into state  and non-state                                                               
funds.  He  concluded his presentation by sharing  the seven best                                                               
practices  for   higher  education   systems,  provided   by  the                                                               
MacTaggart  Report.   They  are:    strong executive  leadership;                                                               
simple,  clear  public  agenda; fiduciary  capacity  to  execute;                                                               
clear   authority  and   responsibility;  models   of  frugality;                                                               
integrated decision  making; and critical self-appraisal  and the                                                               
ability to  change.  He  said he  thinks UA has  demonstrated all                                                               
these best practices.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:20:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PARISH commended  Dr.  Johnsen for  UA's goal  of                                                               
operating  more  cost  effectively   and  reducing  the  cost  of                                                               
education per  completer by  more than forty  percent.   He asked                                                               
what would happen to tuition over that same period.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN explained  that in the short term  the university has                                                               
already  approved a  5 percent  increase for  the next  couple of                                                               
years.  Tuition is still under  the median of the western states.                                                               
The university  will address the  cost of tuition for  more price                                                               
sensitive   courses   and    programs,   such   as   occupational                                                               
endorsements; it  will put resources  there to lessen  the impact                                                               
of  the tuition  increases.    He stated  that  what drives  UA's                                                               
efficiency is  increasing enrollment  and revenue faster  than it                                                               
increases its expenses.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PARISH  stated that  he had  attended UAF  and UAS                                                               
because he  could afford it.   He asked what UA's  target goal is                                                               
for tuition over the next eight years.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  answered that  UA would like  to keep  tuition below                                                               
the  median tuition  of the  fifteen western  states.   He stated                                                               
that   affordability  is   critical.  He   listed  affordability,                                                               
efficiency, and excellence as the touchstones of UA.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:23:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DRUMMOND noted  that Dr.  Johnsen  previously had  related                                                               
that  student counseling  had been  reduced.   She  said that  as                                                               
chair of the House Education  Standing Committee, she serves as a                                                               
commissioner   on  the   Alaska   Commission  of   Post-Secondary                                                               
Education (ACPE),  which has an Alaska  career information system                                                               
and a complete range of services  it offers students.  She asked,                                                               
"Is  the university's  counseling integrated  with what  the ACPE                                                               
provides?"                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:24:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSEN  answered, "Absolutely."   He  said UA  works closely                                                               
with  the  Department of  Labor  &  Workforce Development,  under                                                               
which ACPE resides,  and has done so for years  and will continue                                                               
to do  so.  He  said UA is currently  working on a  project [with                                                               
ACPE].    He  related  that  he is  the  former  chair  of  ACPE;                                                               
therefore, there  is "a  bit of personal  commitment to  ... that                                                               
important mission."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:25:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business  before the committees, the joint                                                               
meeting  of the  House and  Senate Education  Standing Committees                                                               
was adjourned at 9:25 a.m.                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2018 02 07 UA Joint Educ Committee Final.pdf HEDC 2/7/2018 8:00:00 AM